MSNBC host Joy Reid made sure her Republican guest would not get in a word about the Clinton Foundation during a combative exchange Saturday morning on AM Joy.
Reid, who worked for Barack Obama’s 2008 campaign and does not hide her liberal leanings, repeatedly interrupted Donald Trump economic adviser David Malpass as he discussed the allegations of pay-to-play favors given to Clinton Foundation donors by Hillary Clinton’s State Department.
Reid said his points were "provably false" and said he had no evidence to back up his claims. At one point, she went to Newsweek writer Kurt Eichenwald to "please help us here," who then said all Trump surrogates do on television is lie.
Legal Insurrection provided a transcript:
DAVID MALPASS: The Clinton Foundation, what we’re talking about is hundreds of millions of dollars—
JOY REID: That’s all publicly searchable in their open database.
MALPASS: Very clearly pay to play.
REID: No, no. Hold on a second. No, no, no. Sir, sir, sir —
MALPASS: I was a senior State Department official —
REID: Sir, sir, sir. You can’t just state something is a fact when it is not.
MALPASS: I can’t conceive how that was being run and allowed at the State Department —
REID: Sure you can. It’s actually quite open.
MALPASS: Meetings were set up for money.
REID: That is not true! You actually just made an allegation that is provably false. You just made an allegation that is provably false. You do not have any evidence of that. You just made a statement that is good for your campaign. Let’s go to Kurt—
MALPASS: The timeline is really clear. Certain [people] were denied meetings by the State Department, they paid money to the Clinton Foundation and then they got a meeting.
REID: Sir, no, no. You don’t have evidence of that. That’s what you want to be true. That is not true. That is actually just not true. You can’t just assert things that you want to be true but that aren’t. Kurt Eichenwald, please help us here.
KURT EICHENWALD: Several points. Number one, I’ve been coming on TV for years to talk about these kinds of things and every time I’m on with a Trump surrogate, they just get on and lie.
The segment ended in a similar fashion. Eichenwald laughed loudly at Malpass for bringing up her email scandal, and when Malpass mentioned Clinton’s dearth of press conferences, Reid blanched and said "my head hurts" and "I don't even know what else to say."
REID: We’re going to end the segment but I’m going to do one more comment from each.
MALPASS: The Clinton campaign could have handled this very differently by having the emails come out much earlier.
REID: What do the emails have to do with the Clinton Foundation?
MALPASS: The emails are bringing out the information.
[Screen shows Eichenwald laughing derisively at Malpass]
REID: No they’re not. It’s not where the Clinton Foundation information came from. You’re conflating, sir.
MALPASS: Think about what’s happening. People are trying to get her schedule. They’re also trying to get her to have a news conference —
REID: Okay, now you’re conflating press conferences, emails and the Foundation. They’re not all the same thing.
MALPASS: — to stand in front of the public
REID: Okay, she’s had two press conferences in the last week.
EICHENWALD: This is like the demolition derby of scandals.
MALPASS: Now that wasn’t even a press conference.
REID: Oh my God, now that wasn’t really a press conference. My head hurts.
MALPASS: It was eight minutes long.
REID: Sir, that was a press conference. That is what a press conference is. I don't even know what else to say to you.
MALPASS: No. They go long enough for more.
REID: Thank you, David. Kurt, I’m sorry, we are out of time. I’m sorry, I don’t even know what else to say.