The liberal hosts of "The View" were well-armed with dubious talking points about gun control and the Second Amendment during a fierce debate Thursday in the wake of Wednesday's shooting that left House Majority Steve Scalise (R., La.) and four others wounded.
Host Sunny Hostin said "more guns is not the answer." Fellow host Joy Behar boasted of living in New York State with its strict gun laws, claiming that she would be afraid to live in an open-carry state and would never take public transportation.
"I'd be afraid that some guy on the subway would have a fit, just go mad because he was upset somebody took his seat … and shoot somebody else," she said, not noting that the exact same thing could happen in New York.
Non-liberal host Jedediah Bila countered, however, saying she felt safe in states like Arizona and Texas.
"I'm not worried about law-abiding citizens carrying guns," Bila said. "They don't make me nervous."
Host Whoopi Goldberg cut over Bila to ask her if she had been around "afraid people with guns."
"I have," Bila said.
"I don't believe you, Jed. I don't believe you," Goldberg said.
"I'm a conservative! They're a very pro-gun, pro-Second Amendment [group]," Bila said, laughing.
Goldberg said that when assailants start shooting, people run, and the police may not know how to shoot if there were multiple people carrying guns. She did not point out that citizens bearing arms may be able to defend themselves against an attacker before the police arrived.
"The problem is, if the Capitol Police weren't there … there would have been a massacre there," Bila said.
Told that's "their job," Bila was incredulous.
"If you live in a society where only the police have guns, that's called a police state," she said. "That is not the United States of America."
Goldberg then offered a dubious examination of the Second Amendment.
"The Second Amendment is about a militia," she said. "That's what it says."
It actually says more than that. Its full text reads, "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
"It's the right to bear arms, to protect yourself and your family," Bila said.
Hostin said quietly that being able to defend one's self and family was "not what the Second Amendment is about."