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Evidence, Schmevidence

What does Eric Swalwell know that Feinstein, Warner, and Machin don't?

June 13, 2017

It appears a young Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee knows something that Democrats on the Senate Intelligence Committee do not about the investigation into allegations of collusion between Donald Trump's presidential campaign and Russia.

Rep. Eric Swalwell (D., Calif.) has spoken for months about the existence of "classified evidence" of collusion between Trump's campaign and the Russians, while Sens. Mark Warner (D., Va.), Dianne Feinstein (D., Calif.), and Joe Manchin (D., W. Va.) have stated repeatedly there is no direct evidence to prove such an accusation.

CNN host John Berman asked Swalwell on March 31, "Have you seen any evidence at this point of collusion between Trump associates and the Russians? Have you?"

"Yes. Yes. Unclassified and there's classified," Swalwell said.

Swalwell later declared "there is evidence of collusion" in an April 27 appearance on MSNBC's "Hardball."

"What is it?" host Chris Matthews asked.

"I'm not going to betray my oath to keep classified information," Swalwell said, adding that Matthews should look at the "pattern" of Russian interference in the election on behalf of Trump.

On May 5, CNN host Brianna Keilar asked Swalwell what "makes you sure that there is collusion?"

"Well, it's the evidence that I've reviewed on the classified side," Swalwell said.

"Can you give a sense of what you have seen that's pointing in your opinion to collusion?" CNN host Anderson Cooper asked Swalwell on May 8.

"Anderson, there is evidence of collusion, both on the classified and unclassified side," Swalwell said.

That same day, Berman asked Swalwell, "Have you seen things on the classified side that you cannot tell us about, though, that is even stronger evidence than what is out there publicly?"

"Yes," Swalwell said.

Swalwell hedged on May 12, however, when Blitzer asked him again if he had seen evidence of collusion.

"I want to make it clear that evidence of collusion is different than being guilty of collusion," Swalwell said.

Swalwell's words, however, have not been confirmed by the top senators on the Senate Intelligence Committee, including ranking member Warner.

CNN host Wolf Blitzer asked Feinstein on May 3 if she had any evidence of collusion.

"Not at this time," Feinstein said.

Blitzer followed up with Feinstein on May 18 to see if anything had changed on that front, and she replied, "No, it hasn't."

On June 4, CNN host Jake Tapper asked Warner if he had seen evidence of collusion.

"There is a lot of smoke. We have no smoking gun at this point," Warner said.

Warner repeated the remark about no "smoking gun" in an appearance that day on "Face the Nation."

Manchin told Tapper on Thursday that he has not heard of or seen any evidence of collusion between Trump and the Russians.

Finally, Manchin told ABC host George Stephanopoulos on Sunday that he has seen no evidence "whatsoever" to prove collusion.