White House press secretary Jay Carney struggled answering questions from Chris Matthews on the developing Internal Revenue Service targeting scandal Thursday, insisting repeatedly that "all the facts" are needed before further action or even the promise of further action:
MATTHEWS: Yes, but outrage is good. The words are good. Getting rid of that guy, Miller, is good, because it was appropriate for him to retire, resign. But is he going to be satisfied, this president, with one head? Or doesn't he -- you know the public relations here. If the American people are filling out their taxes next year, know that the IRS is still packed with the same people, it's a problem, isn't it? Or is it?
CARNEY: Well, Chris, I mean, if you're suggesting that I should randomly fire people now -- we need to get all of the facts --
MATTHEWS: No, will he be happy if he doesn't fire people?
CARNEY: We need to get all of the facts, and he has made clear that people who are responsible for failures will be held accountable. He will demand it. We need all the facts. We have the IG's report. We need more facts.
